This week I got to interview my sister.

One of my aims with this podcast is to create an experience for people listening where they feel like they are eavesdropping on a conversation between two friends. I want both the guest and I to forget we are being recorded; to become focused purely on connecting with each other and having an honest conversation.

Having the conversation in a location the guests chooses is part of this. And I aim in my approach to the conversation to further encourage this feeling.

What I learnt from my conversation with my sister is that despite these efforts, the conversations I have with people when they are recorded are different to those we have in everyday situations. And this is not necessarily a bad thing.

I have known Rachel Murray for 34 years now, and what I loved about chatting with her in this episode is that despite knowing heaps about her, there is still so much I do not know. Having the chance to talk with somebody I know quite a bit about also meant that we could go deeper, and my questions could be more focused on important parts of her life.

Rachel is an inspiration to me in the way she is living. She has not taken anything in her life at face value, following her values and her intuition on adventures within herself, travelling overseas, engaging with a diversity of people, and being open-hearted all she does.

Whole-hearted is a phrase that comes to mind when I think of Rachel. It is something that I do not always feel comfortable with – it challenges me to contemplate how I am enacting my values through my actions. But it is a challenge I value, and a trait of Rachel’s I greatly admire.

In this conversation we talk about her work with refugees and facilitating leadership development, permaculture, camel farming, and the importance of reconciling with family.

Rachel is one of the original subtle disruptors of my life, and I hope you enjoy listening to our conversation.

If you enjoyed listening to Rachel you may also enjoy listening to Samuel Alexander on living in an alternative way to create an alternative future, and Maria Cameron on ‘The Hood’, a community Rachel is part of.

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