Joel Hines

The subtle disruption of thresholds, stories, and re-memberings - SD96

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There are moments in our life when we cross a threshold. A place where, once we pass through, we can no longer go back. The experience cannot be unexperienced. Another person now stands in the place of the one that was here in the moment before. These moments can happen in seconds, or they can happen across years.

This is one of the key themes Joel Hines and I explore and keep coming back to in this conversation: leaving our current state; crossing thresholds; transforming; and then returning to integrate. It is something he has brought to his work as a facilitator of rites of passages, in guiding organisations to greater effectiveness, and in coaching and mentoring leaders.

I finding myself relaxing into the conversation. Content with the energy and the pace. There does not seem to be any rush, a combination of our setting at Melbourne’s Abbotsford Convent, my state of mind, and Joel's comfort in his own skin.

He has a depth and wisdom that only comes through a quantity and quality of living. I experience a warmth in our conversation. A pace that is not rushed and a confidence that it will unfurl as it needs to. I can sense there are many lived experiences he is drawing from, and it is from this place that he has something worth saying.

Stories are central to the way Joel operates in the world, and towards the end of our conversation he shares a myth for us to ponder: about cycles, returnings, re-memberings and the wisdom the can come with age.

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